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Old 06-12-2005, 11:59 PM
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Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

(edited to add a poll to see what people think)

I'm going to follow this up with a post of what I have compiled. This is meant as a one stop answer to all questions anyone might have concerning hammered. Everyone should feel free to go in and edit existing topics in the thread, create new ones, etc. This was the best I could do in one short setting so beware, it is very incomplete.

Rot I thought you had a lot of good points about MC and was hoping you might be able to edit that down into a general raid procedure/behavior section. I have it all copied and pasted below.

Also if all ammendments could be done by modifying the post and not replying to it, we could avoid having this thread be 60pgs long. Any replies could be on content questions or issues. Im gonna try and work on at least one topic a day. if everyone could do the same, this will be done in no time.

I'd like to have the goal of having this completed by the 20th of December. (just a random day i pulled out of my ass, but i feel like if we dont give this a deadline, then we will let it sit like most other issues.)
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:00 AM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

STATEMENT OF PURPOSE / MISSION STATEMENT

Hammered is meant to be a member oriented guild, which builds strong relationships while at the same time makes large strides through end game content.

GENERAL

•VENT INFO
Join us in Vent for jolly funs.

power.typefrag.net:6655
password: teriyaki

If you get the 'unable to resolve DNS' error, try the following IP:
67.19.147.68


•Conflict Resolution
Here are the steps you should take in dealing with members who you believe are at fault in a matter:

1) Speak with the member
2) Speak with the other individuals directly affected by member's actions (ie other members of class if a class item was ninja'd)
3) Speak with an officer if nothing can be resolved to this point

Speaking with an officer should always be your last option.

MEMBERSHIP

•INVITES
We of Hammered pride ourselves on being much more laid back than many guilds, it is our goal to maintain this attitude even in light of more serious raiding activities.Â* As such, your application to us is more just letting us know you're interested.

Once you submit your application, it will be moved to a private forum where we will discuss all the moronic things we've seen you do.Â* This shouldn't last long unless you are a complete idiot with a tendency towards flamboyancy.

We will then contact you in game to inform you of our decision.

If you are accepted, you will be taken into the guild on a two week trial period, where we will get to know you and see whether you are right for Hammered.Â* At the end of these two weeks we will make the final decision on whether to keep you in the guild or not.

•FRIEND INVITES
RL friends may be invited.Â* They undergo the same application process as a normal applicant.Â* There is little chance of a RL friend reaching Wasted rank.

•REMOVING IDLE MEMBERS
Members who have been inactive more than a month will be removed from the guid.Â* If you can't play for an extended time all you must do is either log on once a month to update your "last logged" info in the guild social window.

•BOOTING MEMBERS
Members can be removed at the discretion of the officers.

•RANKS AND MEANINGS
STFU Corner - timeout for being a douche
Underage - Alts
Sober - Initiates
Drunk - Members
Wasted – Raiding Members
Bartender - Officers
Brewmaster - Guidmaster

RAIDING

•RAIDING SCHEDULE
Saturday: 5 server (BWL)
Sunday:Â* Â*6 server (BWL)
Tuesday: 7 server (MC)
Thursday: ? server (20 man night)

Onyxia has the possibility of happening any night

•RAID PROCEDURE

1) One must put forth full effort in the raid or you will be removed.

2) NO MORE NINJA AFK'S, or you will be removed.

3) Come prepared to raid.Â* Saying I don’t have enough time to farm FR pots, health pots, tubers, etc., is not an excuse.

4) No complaining in raid.Â* If you don’t want to be there or don’t like the way things are being run, don’t go.

5) If a class can ressurect/dispell/buff/decurse/drop totems and they never do so, they will be removed.

•RAID INVITES
Invites start a quarter of an hour before.
You must be in Kargarath to receive an invite.
If you aren't online and ready to go at time of start you will get booted for someone who is

Members>lvl 60>balance

4 Priests

2 droods (could go 3 and 3 if we have to, but more is always better)
Reason: need healers with longevity, sorry but shams blow their mana pools a lot faster and don't have nearly as much spirit. Dispells also mandatory for Geddon and Sulfuron. Sulfuron and Geddon are harder with 3 priests but doable, I blew 5.5k mana just dispelling on sulfuron last night with 4 priests, I am however the only one dispelling a lot it seems since I ate 3 full soulburns yesterday and bitched in priest chat about it.

2 warlocks min, 3 would be better (summons/garr/healthstones)

5 mages (domo)

Other than that we're clearly not having trouble getting shaman/hunters/rogues/warriors.

•DKP
We use a zero DKP system.Â* All items have set values.Â* When an item drops the person with the highest DKP gets the item.Â* If another member is within 20% of that person's DKP then it will go to a roll.

Upon winning an item, a set amount is removed from that person's DKP pool and is redistributed evenly to all members currently in that raid, keeping us at a sum of zero dkp.

See: http://hammered.chenghiz.net/dkp/viewnews.php

•DKP & Alts
DKP will be registered to the person, under their main characters name.Â* That means if I raid on Beastman instead of Bishan, I'll get that DKP under one name, Bishan.Â* Time registered is on a per person basis, not per character.Â* Despite the character you play on, you as a person are still contributing and thus it will be credited to you and not a specific character.

Alts will never be able to take gear in raids over mains.Â* Before anyone screams and whines, you guys should all realize that we're gearing up in order to move on.Â* There is always more content to do, and by allowing alts to take items over mains, we would be gimping the guild as a whole by diluting the gear even further.Â* Now, you, as an alt, are allowed to take MC gear as long as no main wants it.Â* If you spend the points on it, it comes out of your DKP pool, which represents you (or all characters).

You will have a declared main and listed alts.Â* Everyone's main atm is very obvious I feel.Â* If you've taken gear from a raid on a character, then that's your main.Â* IE...Bishan is my main, Anna is Anna's main, Spud is Spud's main.Â* Now, just because something is your main now does not mean you won't ever be able to change it.Â* If you wish to change your main, you must have a valid reason/decision, the officers must agree on this, and 66%(2/3) of the class you'll be switching to must give the OK.Â* This seems a little drawn out, but really it isn't a big deal.Â* No officer is a nazi.Â* If you really want to play another class as your main, we'll probably give the OK on it.Â* We won't force you to stay any class if you really don't like it.Â* The class vote is something that shouldn't be a problem, as most people are cool...it's just to make sure that they feel like you're sincere and whatnot.Â* One thing we won't stand for is someone gearing up a guy, switching, then switching back after the alt has gear.Â* That would really hurt the guild, and we think you all realize this.


[*]DISTRIBUTION OF BANK ITEMS

Blue items dropped off bosses will stay in the bank for a period of 3 or 5 days, at which point people can claim them for themselves or their alts.Â* After the waiting period, they will be auctioned off for the guild bank.Â* Random green mats will be given on a need basis.Â* Just file a request in the bank thread and petition an officer, and we'll give em out.Â* Anything that is an "ubermat" will be kept in the guild bank and passed out based on officer discression (like FR stuff).Â* Basically,if it's in the bank, and you need it for something, it's yours...unless it's a raid mat.Â* Be smart about how to use the guild bank, you should give as much to it as you receive.


************************************************8
To be put in another thread, if it doesnt' alerady exist

•MC FARMING

You all know about FR pots.Â* They are godly.
You all know about tubers and NDB.Â* They are useful.

BLASTED LANDS BUFFS!!Â* (godly)
+FIFTY to ANY stat.Â* These are the best things short of flasks.Â* PLEASE farm them.Â* Tanks with 500more hp, casters with 750 more mana, hunters with 50 more agi.Â* These things are amazing.
http://www.thottbot.com/?n=7590
those are the melee type ones..there are caster ones too but i done know where they are

COOKING, kinda like RL, if you cant cook find someone who can.
You can get very nice buffs from cooking, stm, str, spr,Â* int i think
so yeah, bring food


•PRIORITY ON RAID GEAR
We have an unspoken agreement on most items.Â* While we hope this will never be necessary, here is a guide on item priority.

MC
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aurastone hammer - druids/shamans
azuresong mageblade - mages, warlocks
band of accuria - hunters/rogues/warriors
blastershot launcher - hunters, rogues/warriors
bonereavers edge - warriors
brutality blade - rogues, hunter/warriors
cauterizing band - priests
cloak of shrouded mists - rogues/hunters, warriors
core forged greaves - warriors
core hound tooth - rogues
crown of destruction - hunters, warriors
Â* Â* (i missed this earlier, but I think some shamans could benefit from this...not a huge warrior upgrade over lionheart)
dragons blood cape - warriors
drillborer disk - warriors
earthshaker - warriors
eskhanders claw - warriors
finkles lava dredger - druids/shamans
flameguard gauntlets - warriors
flamewalker legplates - warriors
gloves of the hypnotic flame - mages/warlocks
gutgore ripper - rogues
heavy dark iron ring - warriors
magma tempered boots - ?
malistars defender - shaman
mana igniting cord - mages
medallion of steadfast might - warriors
obsidian edged blade - warriors
onslaught girdle - warriors
perditions blade - rogues
quickstrike ring - rogues/hunters/warriors
robes of volatile power - mages/warlocks
salamander scale pants - druids
sash of whispered secrets - warlocks
sorcerous dagger - warlocks/mages/druids
spinal reaper - warriors
staff of dominance - mages/warlocks
strikers mark - hunters, rogues/warriors
talisman of ephemeral power - mages/warlocks
wild growth spaulders - druids
wristguards of stability - druids
wristgaurds of trueflight - hunters/shaman

Onyxia
--------
deathbringer - warriors, shamans
eskhanders collar - warriors/hunters/rogues
viskag the bloodletter - rogues, warriors

a slash (/) means same priority, a comma (,) means before

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Old 12-01-2006, 08:15 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

Has this been posted publicly?
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:20 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

A few things in that list have changed since it was posted, such as alt looting and item preferences, so we'd have to really give it a good look over again before we posted it, if we wanted to.
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:21 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

I think it's important to give people a concrete idea of what Hammered is and how we do things.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:43 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

In the spirit of cleaning out our dead weight and instituting a raiding rank, im gonna try and finish this thing i started. If anyone else wants to help feel free to make your changes similar to scurns raiding class post.
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Old 10-03-2006, 07:25 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

FR stuff isnt needed in the constitution thing
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Old 10-03-2006, 07:59 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

updated 3/10
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:51 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

i think the priority on gear is out the window too. i believe its just dkp now.

fools need to realize about weapons too. shams should pay full price for 2handers, etc etc. and vendorpwn is a warrior weapon, value shouldnt be deprecated.
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Old 14-03-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

added a little conflict resolution bullet under general
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Old 14-03-2006, 06:07 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

Wristguards of Trueflight should be hunter/shaman/warrior, as the Giantstalkers are better and part of the set.
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Old 14-03-2006, 06:44 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

would a warrior really want those?
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Old 14-03-2006, 08:19 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

Well, I know Shavnir did - the +hit is supposedly good for Fury warriors. /shrug
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

definitely not warrior pref imo. even with the +hit. its mail, and theres similar bracers for warrior. these, like the crown of destruction, are in better hands with a dps sham/hunter, though im not sure if theres better things for those classes.
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Old 14-03-2006, 08:41 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

yeah there are +hit bracers out of UBRS, im gonna put as sham/hunter
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Old 14-03-2006, 09:28 PM
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Re: Hammered Constitution/Charter/By Laws/FAQ/whatever

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Originally Posted by Tenskatawa
Well, I know Shavnir did - the +hit is supposedly good for Fury warriors. /shrug
Past fury warriors its not that good, most MS'ers are good going for might or wrath for the pure str and stam.
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