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Old 03-12-2005, 08:32 PM
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melee weapon comparison for hunters.

the fallowing post was made by an egg headed hunter on the wow forums, it has been adjusted and corrected with the help of others.

As the original poster says, this is not a claim to all the weapons listed, only a comparison of there values to a hunters ranged, and melee stats.
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Old 03-12-2005, 08:34 PM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

Domandred
Level 60 Night Elf Hunter
Guild: Winds of War
Realm: Icecrown


I know you have seen most of these calculations before but I'm just recalculating them again with new loots found.

Set bonuses and Agi Enchants calculated in. Ordered by given ranged attack power, tie on rap ordered by +% crit. If you don't know the individual stats on these you will have to look them up, sorry.

Math Used:
1 Agi = 2 Ranged Attack Power
52.5 Agi = 1% Crit

This list is far from complete but offers some of the most common builds and the most commonly asked about builds. In most cases I only included weapons that offer something a hunter would want, agi, attk power, or crit strike %. I also did not include any of the PvP melee weapons available, just crafted or PvE drops/quests.

This list is NOT to declare that any individual weapons is "for" hunters, or any priority given to hunters on any of these weapons. This is only a compilation of weapons hunters would be interested in. (cough Death's Sting is a DAGGER!)

Death's Sting + Hakkari Off Hand
+30 Agi
+10 Ata
+138 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% crit

Doom's Edge + Hakkari Off Hand
+46 Agi
+7 Sta
+9 Str
+132 Ranged Attack Power
+.87% Crit

Scythe of the Unseen Path + Death's Sting
+46 Agi
+19 Sta
+130 Ranged Attack Power
+.88% crit

Twin Blades of Hakkari
+30 Agi
+128 Ranged Attack Power
+1.58 % crit chance
+6 sword skill

Hakkari Main Hand + Death's Sting
+30 Agi
+10 Sta
+126 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% crit

Bone Slicing Hatchet + Hakkari Off Hand
+43 Agi
+5 Sta
+126 Ranged Attack Power
+.81% Crit

Scythe of the Unseen Path + Doom's Edge
+62 Agi
+16 Sta
+9 Str
+124 Ranged Attack Power
+1.18% crit

Bone Slicing Hatchet + Death's Sting
+43 Agi
+15 Sta
+124 Ranged Attack Power
+.89% crit

Hakkari Main Hand + Doom's Edge
+46 Agi
+7 Sta
+9 Str
+120 Ranged Attack Power
+1.87% Crit

Ancient Qiraji Ripper + Hakkari Off Hand
+30 Agi
+11 Sta
+120 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% cirt

Core Hound Tooth + Hakkari Off Hand
+30 Agi
+9 Sta
+120 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% Crit

Brutality Blade + Hakkari Off Hand
+39 Agi
+9 Str
+118 Ranged Attack Power
+1.74% Crit

Blessed Qiraji Pugio + Hakkari Off Hand
+30 Agi
+7 Sta
+118 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% crit

Doom's Edge + Bone Slicing Hatchet
+59 agi
+12 sta
+9 str
118 Ranged Attack Power
+1.12 % crit

Blessed Qiraji Pugio + Death's Sting
+30 Agi
+17 Sta
+116 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% crit

Hakkari Main Hand + Bone Slicing Hatchet
+43 Agi
+5 Sta
+114 Rap
+1.81% crit

Death's Sting + Blessed Qiraji Axe
+30 Agi
+19 Sta
+10 Int
+113 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% Crit

Scythe of the Unseen Path + Ancient Qiraji Ripper
+46 Agi
+20 Sta
+112 Ranged Attack Power
+1.88% crit

Ancient Qiraji Ripper + Doom's Edge
+46 Agi
+9 Str
+18 Sta
+112 Ranged Attack Power
+1.88% crit

Scythe of the Unseen Path + Core Hound Tooth
+46 Agi
+18 Sta
+112 Ranged Attack Power
+1.88% crit

Doom's Edge + Core Hound Tooth
+46 agi
+16 sta
+9 str
112 Ranged Attack Power
+1.86% crit

Barb of the Sand Reaver (Polearm)
+56 Agi
+31 Sta
+112 Ranged Attack Power
+1.07% crit

Bone Slicing Hatchet X2
+56 Agi
+10 Sta
+112 Ranged Attack Power
+1.07% crit

Doom's Edge + Brutality Blade
+55 agi
+18 str
+7 sta
110 Ranged Attack Power
2.04% Crit

Scythe of the Unseen Path + Brutality Blade
+55 Agi
+9 Str
+9 Sta
+110 Ranged Attack Power
+2.04% crit

Scythe of the Unseen Path + Blessed Qiraji Pugio
+46 Agi
+16 Sta
+110 Ranged Attack Power
+1.88% crit

Blessed Qiraji Pugio + Doom's Edge
+46 Agi
+14 Sta
+9 Str
+110 Ranged Attack Power
+1.88% crit

Dal'Rend's SET
+30 Agi
+100 Armor
+4 str
+10 Def
+110 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% Crit

Ancient Qiraji Ripper + Bone Slicing Hatchet
+43 Agi
+16 Sta
+106 Ranged Attack Power
+1.82% crit

Ancient Qiraji Ripper + Core Hound Tooth
+30 Agi
+18 Sta
+100 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% crit

Bone Slicing Hatchet + Blessed Qiraji Axe
+43 Agi
+14 Sta
+10 Int
+100 Ranged Attack Power
+1.89% crit

Hakkari Main Hand + Core Hound Tooth
+30 Agi
+9 Sta
+108 Attack Power
+2.57% crit

Hakkari Main Hand + Ancient Qiraji Ripper
+30 Agi
+11 Sta
+108 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% crit

Hakkari Main Hand + Brutality Blade
+39 Agi
+9 Str
+106 Ranged Attack Power
+2.74% Crit

Hakkari Main Hand + Blessed Qiraji Pugio
+30 Agi
+7 Sta
+106 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% crit

Blessed Qiraji Axe + Doom's Edge
+46 Agi
+10 Int
+9 Str
+16 Sta
+106 Ranged Attack Power
+1.88% crit

Scythe of the Unseen Path + Blessed Qiraji Axe
+46 Agi
+18 Sta
+10 Int
+106 Ranged Attack Power
+1.88% crit

Bone Slicing Hatchet + Core Hound Tooth
+43 agi
+5 sta
+106 Ranged Attack Power
+1.81% crit

Bone Slicing Hatchet + Brutality Blade
+52 agi
+5 sta
+9 str
+104 Ranged Attack Power
+1.98% crit

Bone Slicing Hatchet + Blessed Qiraji Pugio
+43 Agi
+12 Sta
+104 Ranged Attack Power
+1.89% Crit

Blessed Qiraji Axe + Ancient Qiraji Ripper
+45 Agi
+20 Sta
+10 Int
+104 Ranged Attack Power
+1.86% crit

Dal'Rends Main + Hakkari Off Hand
+30 Agi
+4 Str
+100 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% Crit

Dawn's Edge + Hakkari Off Hand
+30 Agi
+100 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% Crit

Ancient Qiraji Ripper + Brutality Blade
+39 Agi
+9 Str
+11 Sta
+98 Ranged Attack Power
+2.74% Crit

Brutality Blade + Core Hound Tooth
+39 Agi
+9 Str
+9 Sta
+98 Ranged Attack Power
+2.74% Crit

Blessed Qiraji Pugio + Ancient Qirahi Ripper
+30 Agi
+11 Sta
+98 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% crit

Blessed Qiraji Pugio + Brutality Blade
+39 Agi
+7 Sta
+9 Agi
96 Ranged Attack Power
+2.74% crit

Blessed Qiraji Axe + Core Hound Tooth
+30 Agi
+10 Int
+18 Sta
+94 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% crit

Blessed Qiraji Axe + Brutality Blade
+39 Agi
+10 Int
+9 Str
+9 Sta
+92 Ranged Attack Power
+2.74% Crit

Doom's Edge + Dawn's Edge
+46 agi
+7 sta
+9 str
+92 Ranged Attack Power
+1.86% crit

Barbarous Blade
+15 Agi
+90 Ranged Attack Power
+1.28% crit

Hakkari Main + Dawn's Edge
+30 Agi
+88 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% Crit

Hakkari Main + Dal'Rend's Off Hand
+30 Agi
+10 Def
+100 Armor
+88 Ranged Attack Power
+1.57% crit

Bone Slicing Hatchet + Dawn's Edge
+43 Agi
+5 Sta
+86 Ranged Attack Power
+1.82% crit

Peacemaker
+15 Agi
+86 Ranged Attack Power
+1.29% Crit

Blessed Qiraji Pugio + Core Hound Tooth
+30 Agi
+16 Sta
+80 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% crit

Zulian Stone Axe
Two-Hand Axe
+15 Agi
+22 Int
+74 Ranged Attack Power
+1.29% Crit

Ice Barbed Spear
+36 Agi
+20 Sta
+13 Str
+72 Ranged Attack Power
+.68% Crit

Blessed Qiraji Axe + Blessed Qiraji Pugio
+30 Agi
+16 Sta
+10 Int
+64 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% crit

Dawn's Edge X2
+30 Agi
+60 Ranged Attack Power
+2.57% Crit

Dreadforge Retaliator
+15 Agi
+1% Parry
+60 Ranged Attack Power
+1.29% Crit

Lok'Delar, Stave of the Ancient Keepers
+15 Agi
+26 Stamina
+15 Intellect
+10 Nature Resistance
+30 Ranged Attack Power (+75 Demons)
+2.29% Crit
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Old 03-12-2005, 10:07 PM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

why dont i see vendorpwn on this list? it upsets me.
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Old 03-12-2005, 10:24 PM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

it doesn't have any ranged attack power to add :P
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Old 04-12-2005, 05:21 AM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

Quote:
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it doesn't have any ranged attack power to add :P
but it PWNS faces!
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Old 14-12-2005, 02:16 AM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

Edit: Added some BWL weapons

The following is math i did for myself on melee weapons. I added 15agi to every weapon, 1h and 2h. Also, as i have LR, i increased agi on the weapon by 15%, but not the +15 (enchants don't get LR bonus). I broke everything down into crit and ap. I didn't bother to look at anything 'worse' than BSH.

CHT: 1.28 crit, 50 AP 9stam
Brutality: 1.48 crit, 50 AP
Hakkari OH: .28 crit, 70 AP
Hakkari MH: 1.28 crit, 58 AP
BSH: .57 crit, 60 AP 5 stam
Dooms Ed: .64 crit, 67 AP 7stam
Dragonfang: .64 crit, 67 AP 13 stam
Crul'shorukh: .28 crit, 66 AP 13 stam


Barb Blade: 1.28 crit, 90 AP


So my weapson preference is:

Hakkari MH
Brutality Blade (easier to get from the roguelings?)
Doom's Edge/Dragonfang Blade
CHT
Hakkari OH
BSH
Crul'shorukh

Unless you're REALLY into min/maxing, my advice to hunters is to take any of these weapons (above BSH) as you can get them, and stick with the first two you get, letting others pass to other hunters. Yes an upgrade from BSH to one of these is significant, but after that it's pretty much a sidegrade.

edit: yes, BSH really is better than crul'shorukh for ranged dps. hunters have no buisness with it.
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:15 PM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

here is the original list thing. What we would like from you hunters is a list of weapons you would like to be able to bid on. Then we'll take your list and talk to the warrs and rogues about it and get some consensus back to you.
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Old 15-01-2006, 05:59 PM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

/bump for added BWL weapons to my math above.
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Old 24-01-2006, 03:54 PM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

Crul is off limits, the AP and stam doesn't justify losing the 62.8 DPS
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Old 24-01-2006, 03:59 PM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

Notice it's BELOW a Bone Slicing Hatchet in that list...

It's definately not on the top of the list for a hunter...
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Old 24-01-2006, 04:03 PM
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Re: melee weapon comparison for hunters.

Just saying, i don't normally get into this whole hunter loot thing, but that one there, amazing 1 hander for DPS.
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