IGE + Blizzard? DISCUSS!

[Zardala]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...d-f8344370e421


so ya wat if IGE and Blizzard ARE working together?!


i say discuss!

if they are, then maybe you can get a job finally.

discuss.

[Zardala]

2000$ in 2 weeks...hmm lit u might be onto something..


ur still a noob

Originally Posted by Zardala

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...d-f8344370e421


so ya wat if IGE and Blizzard ARE working together?!


i say discuss!

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Repost it, someone who has this cached.

[Zardala]

damn ... she changed it :[

[walkamoly]

it said she worked for ign and her boss knew what specific mob would drop a specific epic at a specific time. And so of course Blizz must feed ige this info. Also she wrote farming macros and quit because she felt guilty.

[Zardala]

I spent many hours on this after talking to a good friend about my past employment. It's for friends to understand more of my life and learn from my experiences.

I worked for a company Called IGE not too long ago for 4 months, before I went into college.

www.ige.com -- IGE, a diversified service provider and market maker, operates the world’s largest secure network of buying and selling sites for massively multiplayer online roleplaying games (MMORPGs) virtual currency and assets on the Internet. IGE currently offers exchange services for many of the world’s most popular MMOGs, including both direct buying and selling services as well as a trading platform.

Tomo worked with me.. Our job was simple, we were given 2 well written pdf files , each one with over 50-60 exploits in World of Warcraft's system. We used 2 computers , decent specs windowsxp home , they only had basic programs with windows xp ( internet explorer , notepad etc. ) and World of Warcraft in the system.

We ran on lowest quality everything we were given 2 accounts one for each of us. These accounts contained 1 horde rogue lvl60 and 1 alliance rogue lvl60 on one of the most popular PvP servers.

We both did everything from teleport exploits , instant zone ins , tracking exploits etc. Just basic stuff at first. Within our first month Tomo and I wrote up 4-6 different scripts for IGE which they passed to the "24/7" gold farmers we had not known much at the time the conditions those people were working in so we had not put much thought into what we were doing. Each script offered us around 200-400 USD each. It really did not take much programming knowledge to write them , they gave us a basic macro program and told us to specify a script for a different part of a certain zone ( namely everyones favorite "Tyrs Hand" ).

After working for them about 2 months making a decent amount of money for a part-time job, They "promoted" us to a different level of gold farming.

Since one of the main "managers" was a good friend of ours he had explained to us one of the biggest ways IGE makes gold is not by having a couple hundred chinese boys and girls farming 24/7 for pennies on the dollar, but bleive it or not was through "fixed" epic drops off certain mobs. Every week we were given a note with a fixed location / time / and mob name that would drop a certain epic item , one example which I remember is a Carrion Grub in Eastern Plaguelands dropping an epic Glowing brightwood staff 2 times in one day one for Tomo and Alliance rogue and one for me a Horde rogue .. basically one for each market.

Although our friend never told us how this process worked it has led me to believe that maybe our "Anti-Gold farming" company Blizzard may be in on IGE's million dollar market , I mean really how much easier can it be ? You make a game have millions of subscribers and then create "make believe" online currency to sell to stupid people with alot of money in their wallets? Sony did it with EverQuest , why not Blizzard with WoW ? Nerds get their pride through having better things than everyone else and Blizzard IGE get their money how perfect can it be? But hey that's just an opinion not a fact ^_^.

Tomo and I had met a $2000.00 quota in 2 weeks , I remember us both walking into the office to get the check but this day was the day that made us both quit.

As referenced here in my blog and as many of you already know , IGE is a slavedriving sweatshop business..But of course they don't admit it , They pay children (16 years ) China/Japan/Korea and other poor countries to sit in warehouses to play 12 hours a day for 1$ an hour. Tomo and I had walked by a room with over 20 over worked / tired and miserable adults and teenagers sitting in front of computers playing World of Warcraft. We were both sick , we had written scripts so that they could sit in front of computers all day to make no where near enough money to get by.

Yes it is their decision they are not slaves but they are being taken advantage of and everyone who buys gold ( I'm sure most of WoW's player base ) supports it. We walked into that office took the check , and reported the building to authorities. It was shut down and moved I am sure to a different place within a week.

Read this , all true as I have experienced it all myself.

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager....=0&cId=3141815


I hope everyone that has read this has learned something , think before you buy that 2k gold from IGE or e-bay sure your getting that uber-l33t EPIC MOUNT ! or that purple you have always wanted but your also supporting a slave-driving sweatshop business.

This is all my experience with IGE in a 4 month period make comments if you want but don't e-mail me about it.. and I did not link this on World of Warcrafts forums this was meant for my friends not for every single person who plays the game

[Argith]

Ouch. Just...ouch.

[duff]

Shit I better stop buying clothes, shoes, everything"made in china" too cuz last I checked same thing with same/worse working conditions. You think an operation that has people sitting playing games at computers 12 hours aday is so terrible? Dont be a pussy there are far more terrible things going on in the world that our lifestyles in the US has created and perpetuates. I dont feel the least bit sorry for the gold farmers, its steady work in air conditioning (and "crap" pay is because you assume that a dollar has the same buying power over there as it does here), shit if you want to feel sorry for someone how about all the mexican gardeners, last I checked the going rate is 20-30 bucks for a full 12-14 hours day along the border, and those dollars do have the same buying power, plus they are usually displaced and must send most of the money to a family far away, and then somehow manage to live off what little they have held onto, all the while being surrounded by pompous americans that treat them like 2nd class citizens, wait my bad not citizens, first class aliens, fuck at least the chinese/asians are among themselves in there own country living at home and earning the strongest currency on the planet while the currency of there country continues to plummet making there 1 dollar an hour far better than say our minimum wage. Shit if anything I would almost encourage buying gold sure as hell beats a job making shoes where the machines are far more dangerous, than a computer console. Hell and i havent even started talking about the shit marrying a bitch in the USA does to poor africa (think diamond ring), or what your little weed habit has done to every country south of us. Shit if your going to be all high and mighty about shit you should stop doing as an american cuz of the socioeconomic implications it could have abroad maybe you should start with the big ones like stop using oil and stop using drugs. Shit I should go buy gold now to prove my point, but I work for -30k a year as a grad student so I cant afford it.

Originally Posted by Zardala

This is all my experience with IGE in a 4 month period make comments if you want but don't e-mail me about it.. and I did not link this on World of Warcrafts forums this was meant for my friends not for every single person who plays the game

lol. i like how someone posted this on the wow forums anyways.

[Argith]

A large difference, Duff, is that Gold Farmers do things for something that ISN'T reality, whereas Chinese sweat shops DO affect reality.

What relation that has for the morality in question is up to each to decide, IMO.

Here, folks. This is not meant to be conflict or a shot at anyone. But I wanna know your opinions on this, for my curiosity.

Is it worse to sweat-shop people for things used in everyday life or for objects that don't really exist?

Discuss. =p

[Bishan]

I'm inclined to vote in favor of the gaming sweat shops for most of Duff's reasons. Sweatshops suck in general...but when you look at the working conditions provided on both...working in an office with little worry that you're going to lose your appendages in a machine seems a lot better to me.

[Kaylend]

Originally Posted by Argith

A large difference, Duff, is that Gold Farmers do things for something that ISN'T reality, whereas Chinese sweat shops DO affect reality.

What relation that has for the morality in question is up to each to decide, IMO.

Here, folks. This is not meant to be conflict or a shot at anyone. But I wanna know your opinions on this, for my curiosity.

Is it worse to sweat-shop people for things used in everyday life or for objects that don't really exist?

Discuss. =p

Entertainment is a market.... it does affect the real world.... virtual or not....

[duff]

Originally Posted by Argith

A large difference, Duff, is that Gold Farmers do things for something that ISN'T reality, whereas Chinese sweat shops DO affect reality.

What relation that has for the morality in question is up to each to decide, IMO.

Here, folks. This is not meant to be conflict or a shot at anyone. But I wanna know your opinions on this, for my curiosity.

Is it worse to sweat-shop people for things used in everyday life or for objects that don't really exist?

Discuss. =p

Reply to Argith:

THe agrument of non-existance is completely wrong argith, that would mean that anything digital is non existant, which would make everyone trying to get patents on code look life real morons. Many business sell products that "ISN'T reality" according to your definition, software companies where I pay to download there program online for example. I never recieve a physical item but I get my software. Or for example say I pay and download a for tool that enhances my photophop or dreamweaver or videoediting software. So what I create "ISN'T reality" according to you which is obiviously wrong. THe game is no different, you pay for a "tool" which enchance your gameplay. Sure the code change is prolly editing 1 line on a blizzard server rather than downloading thousands of lines of code, but still equally as real. So since the objects(wow gold) do really exist your post has been rendered worhtless.

GoldFarming versus OtherOccupation:
well my first post is very good about explaining these chinese dudes have it pretty good compared to the global job market, but I went ahead and talked to my chinese coding partner (since we where together for 8 hours today I spent all the time explaining the world of warcraft and all its implications on the world) . He agreed they have it pretty good. In fact I am going to crunch the numbers and post again, and show that they might have it pretty damn good.