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Old 11-09-2005, 03:56 PM
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Choose A New Religion!!!!

This might sound a weird subject to discuss in Lebanon, a country where many religions and sects exist.


Those who are sensible towards this kind of subject you are free to object on the idea, this is a democratic country, but please respect others' point of views.

Anyway, here's the thing: A lot of religions, beliefs, and ideologies exist. All of us follow one belief, weither we believe in God or not, I'm not here to judge your belief, nor to let you judge mine.

I'm not asking u to abandon your religion, because most of us follow it because we see it as the best (or just because our parents are so). So consider that your religion or sect does not exist, what other religion would u chose to follow?
Would you still be a believer or choose to be a non believer, this is an issue where you need to go beyond yourself a bit, to forget how you were raised, to see what would be the best thing to believe in to unite humanity, and to solve humanity's problems.

P.S: It's not about secterianism, on the contrary, it should help us see what are the good things about other's beliefs, it makes it easier to respect other's thoughts.

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Re: Choose A New Religion!!!!

sara7atan ana muslim bas one day i told my dad why christians r wrong and we r right i wanna learn christanity so i did and reviewed the boozian and the zaradachtian ya3ne some relegions and i reviewed muslim kor2an and comapre it to whats happening and to reallity its true it the best relegion i think {ya3ne its my opinion } i was communist and now im muslim


ps: for muslims " inna el deen 3inda allah el islam "

ya3ne ana shway 3ande ta7afoz 3ala hal mawdou3 bas i gave my opinion

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thanx foxy for ur post ana habbet bas e3ref ara2 el kel w kif befakro w sho el din bye3nilon ;0
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Re: Choose A New Religion!!!!

i always thought about it in a different way ... what if u were born like with a different religon ... i dont know i just keep such things to myself :$ and i have alot of things on my mind ...
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Re: Choose A New Religion!!!!

nice question angelMaro...

about the topic.. if i didnt find that the relegion am following is the right one, i woudn't follow it..!!

i admit that i was raised in a medium where relegion means everything and that is true.. but one day, my cousin asked me why am following this specifc relegion? i had the answers and i still have them.. but the point was just like the students in a class... u know the asnwer but u cant explain it well.. so we started our relegion discovery and we found that the relegion we are follwoing now is the relegion that is mostly closed to god !! .. bass heik !!
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u r right GeE ArE sorry wanna tell u 2ossa ma khassa bel mawdo3 ktir bas enno btet3ala2 bel din betmana ma hada yetdea2 mena ....
marra wahad shoyo3y wel shoyo3eyeh known that they believe there's no god every thing created by nature .. so wahad moslem w wahad shoyo3y 3am yetshera3o eza fee alla walla la2 so dal ya3ty el moslem la el shoyo3y dale2el 3ala wojod alla bel akhir ma la2a el shoyo3i shee y2olo baddo y2akedlo am fee alla am allo ( wehyet alla enno ma fee alla ) la tshofo fotret el ensen betraj3o la 2enno allah el khale2 la elaha ella howa w allah howi elli nazal 3alayna el adyen kella w el ensen alla 3ateh 3a2el la yfaker w howwi elli yna2y w yshof el din el ansab bas alla anzal al kor2an bel akhir el ketab el monaseb elli beneseb kel zaman w kel maken w kel shee feyo el teshri3at el mazbota w thanx all and i respect all religions
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Re: Choose A New Religion!!!!

well what i see whats most important about everything ... that all religions bey3trfo with some stuff that is the same .. dont cheat , dont kill , dont steal bla bla bla... everything would be perfect here ... and the rest if between each one and his God .. they way he worship his God .. thats whats most important ... i guess
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haha right Mado el adyen kella 3anda nafes el ta3alim bas btekhtelef be akam shaghli ma aktar
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Re: Choose A New Religion!!!!

Guys, not to be harsh or something, but as long as we talk about religions, Lebanon will never change, nomatter howmuch the subject is fine and openminded, we still talk about religion ....
I wont comment on this thread because i honestly hate to talk about religions.
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Re: Choose A New Religion!!!!

without we know.. our existance in this life is realted to relegion.. and everyting we do . we will be judged upon it.. so neither we shall stop talking about the subject or not.. we will deny that fact!!.. besides.. relegions conversation has notihng to do with what is happening in lebanon or wether it will change or not!!.. its not the matter of the subject.. it is the matter of the peope whom are discussing it!!
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Rohff bro mesh 3ayb nehki 3al religion talama hal shee ma 3am ye2zy lebanon be ayya tari2a mesh 3ayb nes2al wmesh 3ayb netnawar 3an be2y el religion wne3ref el opinion ta3olet el 3alam w nefham lesh hayda manno 3ayb w its up to u eza badak tred walla la2 w Gee ArE thanx bro radet 3anny be ma feh el kefaya
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hi angel maro i wana ask u: ru open minded enough i mean u said that u accepy others thoughts and that is fine but in lebanon we need more than that and most ppl say inu eh ana bet2abal deen gayre bas dayman fi ta7afouz w taba3yeh la rejel el den specially ikher fatra bel intekhabet. do u believe inu lebanon momken ykon 3elmene b kilshi ya3ni mafi te2sem ta2efe wala shi. ma el fikra hon iza kenet el dawleh ta2efyeh b te2sema kif mabado ykon el sha3eb ta2efe.2nd by7ko 3an 14 of march inu come on kilon bytkhabo wara isba3on inu hene ma3 "la ta2efyeh" bas wa2ta beser shi khaso bel ta2efyeh degre btekbar el 7asesyeh metel ikher fatra lama 3el2o mas2olin el dawleh kano ra2es amen el 3am sho lizim tkoun ta2efto kano she3e wala marouny wala senni wala roum aw derzi bla bla bla.
i believe in somethin inu mamnetla3 min hal jaw ela ma tetla3 el dawleh min hal jaw el ta2efe. w kamen iza kil we7ed fina 3anjad 7taram ra2e gayro.
finally i just want to say:
inu serna b zameen kter ger 3an zamen el adyen w now tgayaret kter ashia w sar kil el nes min mokhtalaf el adyen 3ayshe ma3 ba3da.
i need to know leh mne7kom 3al ness min wara denon inu leh i wana know?? inu wen el fare2?? we7ed be2emen bel injeal w we7ed be2emen bel kor2an wen el fare2 hayda ra2e kil we7ed fina metel we7ed be7eb el tefe7 aw la2 same ma hayda el shi baynak w ben rabak w bel neheyeh kil el adyen 3enda same basics
PS: ana mani 3am elge el deen lama faker b tare2a 3elmenyeh..
by the way ana 3elmeny before 14 of march.."since i born"

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Re: Choose A New Religion!!!!

Important Message to Non Muslims:

If anyone has a real desire to be a Muslim and has full conviction and strong belief that Islam is the true religion ordained by Allah for all human-beings, then, one should pronounce the "Shahada", the testimony of faith, without further delay. The Holy Qur'an is explicit on this regard as Allah states:

"The Religion in the sight of Allah is Islam." (Qur'an 3:19)

In another verse of the Holy Qur'an, Allah states:

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (Submission to Allah), Never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost."(Qur'an 3:85)

If a person does not pronounce the Shahada and enter Islaam, we cannot say that he is a Muslim, even if he admired Islaam and recognized that it the best religion, a great religion, and so on. Abu Taalib, the uncle of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died a kaafir (non-Muslim), and Allaah forbade His Prophet to pray for forgiveness for him, even though he used to defend the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said in his poems: "I do know that the religion of Muhammad is better than all other religions of mankind; were it not for fear of blame or slander, you would find me accepting it completely."

-IMPORTANT NOTE- I dont hate any other religion of mankind. its just a post to those who are completely confused, and to lead them to the right way.
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Re: Choose A New Religion!!!!

astroveny .. thanx alot for diuscussing ur point of view ,aslan kel shee be lebanon ghalat men aseso eza talama te2sim el dawli ghalat as u said wel manate2 te2sima ta2efy w kel el nhes byetekhado 3ala hasab ma heny wen seknin w sho deinon hayda ghalat!! sah hal shee bas ma lezem eza fakarna be 3elmeneyeh as u sadi enno nelghy kel el ta2feyeh elli 3anna nehna hasab fetretna law add ma kenna 3elmeneyeh hanerja3 lal shee elli alla khala2na 3aleh alla khala2 be kel ensen fetra enno alla elli khale2 w 2alla be karer hal ensen sho howi w sho lezem ykon so hal ensen law add ma hawal yenkor hal shee ma bye2dar yelghy nehe2eyan men zeto hayerja3 la kif khele2 w wen traba w be ayya bi2a bas nehna be lebanon eza laghayna te2sim el manate2 hasab el ta2fy w el dawli hasab el ta2fy men3ish ma3 ba3ed 3aysh moshtarak as they said bas bel ma3na el mazbot wkamen men3ish be rest w amen
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bilal i do respect ur post i respect it ktir bas kamen wanna tell u some thing aw bel ahra 3ale2 3ala shee enta elto
Quote from what u said (its just a post to those who are completely confused, and to lead them to the right way.)
alla be2ol be kor2ano el karim ( kol ennaka la tahdy man ahbabt walakenna allah yahdy man yasha2 ) sadaka allah el 3azim
w ithink nowadays kelna serna ne3ref sho howi el din el eslemy wel masihy w ne3ref ktir tafasil 3an adyen ghayrna so elli howwi habeb yehtedy habeb yekhod el din el sahih i think 3ando 3a2el yfaker ba3ed ma howi sar ye3ref eshya 3an el din el mazbot w 3a2lo be dello 3ala awa howwi azbat din le ay makan w zaman


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Abu Taalib, the uncle of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died a kaafir (non-Muslim), and Allaah forbade His Prophet to pray for forgiveness for him, even though he used to defend the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said in his poems: "I do know that the religion of Muhammad is better than all other religions of mankind; were it not for fear of blame or slander, you would find me accepting it completely."
well my friends.. bass badd 2oul shaghle.. inno Abu Talib ( rodwan ellah 3alaih ) ma meit kefer.. wo Ameer el Mo2mneen el Imam Ali (3alayhe el salam ) 2eja men solob taher.. wo kelna mna3ref kamein inno el Imam Ali (3alayhe el salam ) howwi el wa7eed 3ala wejj el 2arod yalli khele2 bel ka3be el sharife.. so it is impossible inno ykoun bayyo la sama7allah kefer.. else el ka3be ra7 tetnajjas la sama7allah..

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Mado Lebanon howi moltaka kel el hadarat kel el adyen balad el 3aysh el moshtarak bas ya ret in reality enno nsir kelna ekhwy kel el adyen tle2y el masihy wel derzy wel moslem 2e3din ma3 ba3ed 3am yehko 3am yetna2asho be mosta2bal lebanon elli hayroh men wara tayshon kelon kelon kel wahad hammo howi wbas
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One fact before I sleep. 19 religion that exist in Lebanon will never be ONE. And yes it's not a subject we can discuss about Lebanon. If you live in Lebanon then you see that being, christian, muslim etc. is important. But when you live outside ( I don't mean Saudi arabia by outside, I mean europe or america or canada) then you will see that it's not about the religion it's about the person and the thinking. You don't have to have a religion, you should like to have a religion. It's not a must, it's more like a will...

So no religion is the Solution "NEUTRALITY" is the key.

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